In the Field

li Larijani, a veteran official in Iran's Islamic government and the country’s former chief nuclear negotiator, has just won his first elected position as a member of Iran’s 290-seat parliament. Larijani gave an exclusive interview to Barbara Slavin on March 15.

An intellectual who wrote his doctoral dissertation on the German philosopher Immanuel Kant, Larijani, 50, resigned last October from his nuclear post because of differences with Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. Larijani now hopes to become speaker of the parliament, a position of some influence in Iran.

An ambitious man close to Iran's Supreme Leader, Ayatollah Ali Khomenei, Larijani is the son of a grand ayatollah and ran from the Iranian spiritual capital of Qom. He received more than 75 percent of the votes. The following is an excerpt from their conversation in Qom:

Slavin: Two years ago, when you were Iran's national security adviser, I interviewed you and you made an overture for negotiations to the Bush administration. You called our national security adviser a 'logical thinker.' Do you still have this opinion of Stephen Hadley?

You have a good memory. My idea has changed. I didn't see him perform a miracle during this time. There were some good opportunities that emerged but unfortunately no good responses from them.

Slavin: There have been a number of proposals over the years for contacts between our Congress and your parliament. Would you approve of such contacts?

We have to wait for the proposals and see if there is anything tangible or useful put forward. The things we have received so far were perfunctory and lacked content. Therefore we didn't see any reason to tread on this path. We have to see our interest, some utility in this.

Slavin: Recently, U.S. participants in Track II diplomacy with Iran suggested that the nuclear impasse could be resolved by establishing an international consortium to enrich uranium on Iranian soil. Could this be a solution?

They are not official authorities. There are a lot of similar proposals in the international arena but we don't really see any substance. The authorities of the Bush administration are still sticking to their guns, repeating the same thing they said before. We haven't seen any new initiative from them.

Slavin: What if such a proposal came from the U.S. government?

If it's proposed, we can study it.

Slavin with Ali Larijani, Iran's former chief nuclear negotiator and newly elected member of parliament.

Slavin: In the fall of 2006, there were reports that you were coming to New York and had agreed to a short suspension of uranium enrichment so talks could start but that didn't happen because Ahmadinejad interfered.

I think you have a wrong impression here. We never talked about stopping enrichment. (EU foreign policy chief Javier) Solana proposed a meeting in New York of the five plus one (Britain, France, Russia, China, the United States and Germany). He was after suspension but we didn’t accept that.

Slavin: Talk a bit about Iran's regional role.

About Lebanon, we have had a lot of negotiations with Saudi Arabia. We have had some cooperation with the French and Amr Moussa (the head of the Arab League) but unfortunately, the Americans hindered everything… The Americans (also) have some terrorist behaviors.

Slavin: What terrorist behavior?

Imad Mughniyeh, was he assassinated by Hezbollah?

Slavin: So who killed him?

The Americans with the help of the Zionists…The U.S. helps the Zionists to invade and attack the Palestinians. Do you think what we now see in Gaza can it be justified? How are we really going to move toward the stability in the region? The actions taken by the Americans, whatever the results of the conference in Annapolis, are doomed now. Annapolis is dead.

On Iraq, from the very outset we were after the creation of the government from the people. You know very well what countries in the region are opposed to this idea. The terrorist acts that are carried out in Iraq, who is behind them? There are some extremists … these extremists are opposed to us. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to understand this.

Slavin: You have said that you want to be in parliament because it is the one body in Iran that can't be dismissed by anyone.

Yes, it is independent.

Slavin: And it seems that the new parliament will be more critical of Ahmadinejad and will take a tougher position on issues?

It isn't a matter of being opposed. There is a kind of misunderstanding. We have to take a very precise approach to solve the problems of the people.

Slavin: It has been reported that you have formed a coalition with Mohsen Rezaie (the former commander of the Revolutionary Guards) and the mayor of Tehran, Mohammad Baqr Qalibaf, and may support Qalibaf as the next president and that you might be foreign minister. In my book, I have suggested that you want to be the Henry Kissinger of Iran.

My political life is not really coupled with fantasy.

The idea that you would negotiate an end to the 30-year rift with the United States doesn't seem like a fantasy to me.

You are getting ahead of yourself. There are more important issues that we have to spend our time on right now, economic and political affairs and other development issues.

Does it matter to Iran who the next president of the U.S. will be?

I don't want to have a view on this because there are enough quarrels among these different candidates.